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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Im going to some racing. help Reply with quote

Right im off to watch the touring cars at brandshatch this month, This is going to be my first real outing with the camera, So what does people think i should take and use? I have a canon 400d eos camera with 2 lenses. 1- 18-55 and 2- 55-200 do you reccomend a different one? if so let me know.

Also what sort of setting would be best?

Im currently queed for basic photography course but got a long wait so just want to get out there now and play.

Any help would be great
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey bravo,

For fast moving things the ideal is a fast lens say an F4 and below but I wouldn't buy one special unless this will be more than a one off.
Shot in Aperture priority on the smallest F number your lens will go down to. It all depends on the conditions and lighting but look at ISO 400 and maybe above but I'd say you want a shutter speed of around 250 or above to freeze the action. You can play with the ISO to give you this. The small F number will give you a small DOF so making the cars stand out from the background.
Hope that helps!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops forgot to say if you have a tripod or mono pod you could try some panning shots or if your steady enough then theres no need for the tripod etc. This also allows you to use slower shutter speeds so making the background blurred and giving a sense of speed.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These sites have some good tips - one I would echo is to find a nice corner to shoot from.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can't help thinking that 200mm might be a bit on the small side - but taht will all depend on where you are spectating from

Best advise I can give is

enjoy yourself and remember to put the camera down so that you can actually see whats going on from time to time
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers for you help so far guys and girls, If you think of anything else that might help please let me know,

i have a tripod so will be taking this with me.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Follow some of the other photographers (not the vested ones who have special permits) to see where they are going to shoot from. Get as close and as low to the track as you can.

I was at Silverstone a couple of weeks ago and took about 1,000 photos! I tried all different settings just to see what worked and what didn't. Even shots taken on Auto were quite good although it freezes motion so car looks stationary rather than giving impression of speed. I did get a few blurred background shots but others were completely blurred!

I'd recommend a monopod as it's a bit more flexible than a tripod. I just got a good one for 10.99 from 7dayshop.

All the above advice is from a beginner so it may be a little too simple but just enjoy the day is the most important advice

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do enjoy racing a lot. once ive done the touring cars im of to the renault cup in september and then also a mate of mine does motorcross so going to go and get some pics of him.

So if i was to buy a lense for racing what would you guys and girls reccomend?

to be used with my 400d
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Motorcross - get a lens long enough so you do not get covered in dust or mud!!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bravocars1 wrote:
I do enjoy racing a lot. once ive done the touring cars im of to the renault cup in september and then also a mate of mine does motorcross so going to go and get some pics of him.

So if i was to buy a lense for racing what would you guys and girls reccomend?

to be used with my 400d


The best answer to that is how much do you want to spend, theres so many to choose from and range from a couple of hundred pounds to thousands.

The Canon 70 - 300 F4-5.6 IS USM lens £365 from http://www.warehouseexpress.com/ this will give you a focal length of 112 - 480 after you take the 1.6x sensor in your 400D, so should be more than enough. The Image Stabiliser system will also be very useful at that length is you decide to handhold it.

Just a thought

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Venom, im looking at those lenses and also a 170-500 lense to. I will scout around and see what is the best price i can find.

Has anybody bought any lenses of ebay?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone has pretty much echoed what i said to you on MSN.

But i would also like to put another thing into the mix (hey its photography and there arent strictly any rules, apart from thirds Very Happy )

Use TV, AV is great, but if you're wanting to slow something down using TV will give you an instant reference point, Ive got some excellent images in TV as well as AV, just i find TV a bit more instant.

Just remember the light levels, and ISO speeds. Otherwise your DOF may well end up too wide and the car/bike/object may not be fully focused.

Lenses off of ebay...personally i would never buy any camera kit off of ebay. Thats my personal choice of course, the risk of getting something with marks on it, mould! yes mould etc which could affect the image is too much of a risk when you can get a new one for not alot of difference, plus it will have a warranty.



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